Category Archives: Morality

066 – Not Alone – Mormon Sex Guilt – TAG – Special Guests

Professor Stephen was loaned a camera so we could see his pretty face, Terrie Torgerson Peterson graced us along with Mr. Dave Foda.  Dave got deep as he dosed out the unintellectual aspects of Matt Slick’s arguments especially his use of TAG.  Dave also explained knowledge which I slept through because I’m so goddamned smart already.

FFRF Member & Avid CyclistTerrie of Amateur Skeptics and Velotry fame joined us for what was going to be an hour and thankfully stayed the entire 4+ hours.  Not only did she discuss masturbation on her bicycle, she brought up some topics that I hope become more prominent in the future.

1.  Masturbation guilt
2.  Healthy Living without Fat Shaming
3.  I believe a topic started by Dune, the fact that there simply aren’t enough women in the movement, nor are other minorities being served equally.

As usual, in my attempts to feed my ego, I play the class clown and interrupt continuously in order to restore the unprofessionalism you’ve come to expect. Pastor Roy breaks in twice to deliver his weekly Prayer Request and Community Report.  In this weeks community report he shares a vision he had that is a must listen.

Dune and a couple other listeners called in to share.  Dune is another one who should be followed.  She is a fantastic intellectual who you’ll find in the chatroom on Monday nights.

The New Computer and Peripherals

Thanks to someone awesome, I won’t mention names, but it starts with a K and ends with an onrad, Professor Stephen will soon have a new MAC on which to deliver his Snake Oil Science Woo Woo.  Fortunately the needed peripherals are becoming a reality thanks to many of you who have donated to his fundraiser.  There is still a few hundred bucks left to meet the goal if you want to help out.  http://www.gofundme.com/CompforProfStephen 

The Rant

You try wearing the shirt around for a day.  If you think for a second that Atheists aren’t the ones being persecuted and kept silent, then fuck you.  Wear the god damned shirt.  Go get a shirt that says I’m an Atheist and wear that bitch around town.

 

When I started this podcast I hoped that I’d be able to affect change, that’d I’d be able to help others, that I’d leave a legacy, although much smaller and insignificant as some person’s scientific breakthrough or discovery, I wanted to make a ripple that even if no one knew who the fuck it was that started by, that at least there would be one and that my ripple would affect humanity in a positive way.

Since inception the podcast has changed forms but has mostly been a bunch of horse shit around some great content that my co host Professor Stephen delivers.

But what’s happened is I’ve heard from many fans and of those the majority share their experiences coming out, the pain, the agony, the losses, the hurt, the depression, the emotionally whirl wind that coming out causes to many.

 

Not a few, but many.  Many have like me, lost family, lost friends and have retreated back to their closets.  Even I still use a pseudonym to protect my family and livelihood from what the Christians can do.

 

By simply denying to believe in their particular and one of many imaginary friends, I and many of you have become outcasts and considered vile among those we once counted as friends.

Religion has convinced it’s adherents to believe that only they are the purveyors of morality.  Mention that in Pakistan females can’t show the bottoms of their feet or wear eyeliner without being deemed a temptress worthy of death, mention that to shave your beard in certain Amish cultures or Jewish cultures is as immoral as fucking a goat and you will hear something about their morals being incorrect, because our morals are from the correct religion.

 

Fuck me, you can corner them with the First Baptists believe it’s immoral to drink and they’ll say well it’s because the second baptists know what God desires and they are just plain wrong.

 

Today my goddamned fucktarded mother called.  I have 4 girls out of the house, all went to school, all are still in school or graduated now from college except one who’s in the military.

 

One daughter in particular knows who the fuck she is and doesn’t give two shits if you know it.  Today my mother after seeing a facebook picture from another family member that somehow was accidentally overlooked from the facebook blocking feature, sent my mom a screenshot.  Several screen shots actually.

 

This is what happens, this is because they didn’t have the values instilled in them that you got son.  My little soft spoken molly mormon mom continued about how my daughters look like whores and sluts.  yes, she actually used those two words to describe her own granddaughter.

 

Well what is a whore mom?  Someone that had sex more than you?

 

Oh, no, it’s what the lord considers an immoral person for having sex with multiple people.

 

Gritting my teeth and attempting to speak she has some sharp tactics.  She’ll either hang up the phone or she’ll say, I must go, I’ll call you back.  It’s the….. Listen to what I have to say but I don’t want a response    Mantra.

 

But mom, you show your face in public, you don’t wear a head covering of any sort and I’ve seen you walk around barefooted…

 

What are you talking about she said.

 

Well 1.6 billion muslims and most would consider you a whore and a slut for daring to walk around without a head covering.

 

Well that’s because they have false gods.  You’ll understand when you’re my age.  I have much more life experience than you.  It’s why one of your children has a baby out of wedlock, it’s why another one posts immoral stuff online, it’s why they don’t respect others with their words…. they just use so much fowl language.

 

You’ll see one day, she says.

 

I ask, so can you explain to me how sex is immoral.  I’ve got to go – click.

 

That’s a typical conversation.  Always starts off kind, but usually ends with her hanging up after I attempt a rebuttal.

 

I so – want to say that to her, I want to ask her how that all worked out for her.  Me and my 5 siblings were raised in a ultra conservative mormon family.  How’d that work out?

I’m a goddamned atheist, next one only started attending church when she realized she could use the church welfare system for her 6 very young children, another hasn’t stepped foot in a church since he was 16 and moved out because he worships a different Jesus than the mormons, One is dead because he enjoyed life a bit much and made a stupid decision in his early 20’s, the only 2 left are adults, married with children and rely on you and dad to take care of them.  They aren’t even capable of being self sufficient.

 

So how the fuck did you do?

 

Goddammit I remember as a teen, the chaos that would ensue when a upstanding mormon family teen would make a mistake that got out.  Oh, well that family didn’t really obey the entire gospel.  I saw sister smurkle drink a pepsi one time at a ball game or they didn’t force their kids to go to seminary and that’s what happens.  Now they have a cigarette smoker.

 

I’m not exaggerating and usually these would lead to a goddamn family meeting where we must discuss this horrible act and why this won’t happen to our family, we are on the straight and narrow path to heaven.  Do not let yourself get sucked in by these families that are being destroyed from rebellious teens.

 

My fathers words exactly:  “I’d sooner take you out in the woods and kill you than to watch you drag your siblings to hell.”

 

Of course my mother has 20 years on me and is much much wiser so she knows best.

 

And no matter, where you are in America, if you make it known you don’t believe in their imaginary friend, then you are probably evil.  You’ve probably made a deal with Satan himself.

 

The religious have no idea the environment we face when coming out.  They are far too busy claiming they are being persecuted.  The facts are they are doing the persecuting and if you call them out on it, then By God you are fucking persecuting them.

How dare you call out their racism, their bigotry and misogyny.  You fucking worthless heathens, breathing our air, living in the united states of jesus, how dare you.

 

Even still many atheists don’t get it.  They are part of the very elite minority of atheists raised in freethinking homes, usually up north or out west who haven’t even a clue of the abuse by indoctrination of society in the bible belt states.

 

We have these good christians, those empowered with the love of christ, yes we forgive you for fucking the neighbor child, yes we forgive you for beating your wife again, yes we forgive you stealing church funds, but goddamn you to hell if you don’t believe in the woogey bogey boo in the sky.

 

Here in these obnoxiously infected states with the most credulous bigots on the planet, dare you attempt to start a life as a freethinker, a humanitarian an atheist.  You would fare better had you broke in and had sex with his prize coon dog.

 

These fucknuts find it impossible to comprehend that anyone deny the existence of their invisible friend.

 

We are the ones surrounded by this nonsense and most of us are eat up with Christian friends, until, until that fucking day when we realize it’s all horse shit.  Some quietly, some boldly come out but we all lose our lives as we know them.

 

I’ve shared some of the emails received, fuck, your life partner, your spouse, the co producer of your children can and will make a 180 degree turn if you are found to disbelieve.

 

No credit is given, no rope, just ousted.  We are a small podcast and still I receive letters that make my heart ache, make my stomach turn and my eyes leak.

 

It’s not fair, it’s not right and if these Christians were even a half a rat turds worth what they say they are and stand for, it wouldn’t happen.  But your denouncement challenges their entirety.

 

You’ve just forsaken the human race as far as they are concerned.  But my fellow friends and family who like me have been shunned, disowned and demonized… I am your family, I am your friend and love you, Yes I fucking do!

 

And so there is no misunderstanding, I don’t love you like the stalker outside Britany Spears home, I don’t love you like the christian does, I don’t love you like your mom and dad.  I fucking really love you.  You are what keeps me sane.

 

Many of us know what you’re going through, we feel your pain and we share it with you.  But you are not alone.  I know if you are living in a country like the US or the Middle East you may think you are alone, but you are not alone.  We may never meet in person and I may never get to hug your neck, but you are loved and you are not alone.

 

Search us out, there are many more like us.  Find safe ways to connect, find smart ways to reach out and find us.  There’s facebook, theirs ex, this and ex that groups all over and then there is most likely a humanist, atheist or freethinking group near you too.  Colleges and universities have groups as well.

 

I hold no value in biological family, that’s the luck of the draw.  Sure it’d be nice to be able to love and get along with them all, but I have no power against their entitled and willful ignorance.  My family is you.  And That you can take to the bank.

 

Eventually this all will get better, it may be 200 fucking years from now, but what you do today, how strong you are today will go along ways towards that goal.  Let’s push, pull tug and fight the ignorance, let’s encourage freethought and save the fucking world.

 

I love you.

 

062 – Tracie Harris Noah Lugeons Dave Foda – Moral Dilemmas

Tracie Harris, Noah Lugeons and Dave Foda joined us live for this incredible discussion on Moral Dilemmas.

 

Imagine This

Runaway train is barreling out of control.  It’s path: 5 small children playing on the tracks ahead.  You are standing near the switch and can divert the train saving the children…. But this new path would send the train into broken down car with an elderly man inside… What do you do?

 

Moral Dilemmas!

 

You think you know… You’re probably thinking that saving the children is the best plan… and you may be right, but first consider this moral dilemma.

 

You come upon a bad wreck.  You find amongst the five lying helpless bodies that only one will survive.  The other 4 would only survive with the organs donated by the only one with a chance at surviving.

 

Do you sacrifice the one to save the 4?

 

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Rant

My fuck you rant is in response to a link the ignorant and zealous red hat on backwards Joshua Feuerstein posted up.  The link is from todaychristian.net and is the catalyst behind much of the stupidity spewing nonsense making headlines on facebook news feeds everywhere.

 

I mean he literally scours the inter webs for the most incredible stories and presents them as if he’s some wise reincarnate of christ.  One recently was of the little tick called a Fasuka.  Once popped it’s goo can be used to fix pottery.  Of course Lil Joshey says that it’s the blood of the Fasuka and he makes an attempt at allegory.  He describes christs blood being just like the Fasuka blood and can fix a person’s broken life.

 

Of course he gives credit for this marvelous discovery to the israelites from the bronze age periods.

 

Digging and finding nothing, I go to Reddit Skeptics and seek help.  Turns out there is no such creature, never was.  There is however an insect that the Native Americans used to repair pottery but all in all, the story Josh used is complete and utter bullshit.  It’s a modern Christian parable to demonstrate the “lamb of God”.

Now back to my rant…  10 questions for every atheist – questions atheists cannot truly and honestly really answer.  Yes, that’s the subtitle.

 

Ready…

1.  How did you become an atheist?  Well this is going to be easy, maybe the first question is just a teaser, you know like the hook used in sales pitches.  Well I read the goddamned bible and realized that the god I worshipped was not only unreliable and inconsistent, he was demonstrably evil.  He condoned slavery, child abuse, murder, genocide, rape and incest.  Any one of which would have been plenty, but thanks to the good book I had more than enough to encourage my further religious studies and eventually conclude there probably isn’t any gods and in fact it appears that they are all man made.  I can’t take credit for the english language or it’s words so once I decided that there was no evidence for a god, I found an existing definition that fit my disbelief.

Therefore: Atheist

 

2.  What happens when you die?   Probably the same shit that went on before I was alive.  Others will live and die and I won’t be the wiser of anything.  How did you feel in 1927, well that’s how I will feel when I’m dead.  Nothing.  More specifically, based on millions of other deaths, I believe the science, my body will rot and the atoms that once comprised the me that is here now will return amongst the innumerable atoms already everywhere.  Oh and before I wrap up question 2, my religious family will probably mourn over the belief they share that their all loving God will punish me eternally in the pits of hell.

 

3.  What if you’re wrong and there is a heaven and a hell?  Oh crap!  I suppose I would hope that whatever god is over the whole thing won’t be yours and will instead respect those who didn’t follow blindly behind the indoctrinated beliefs of others.  I would hope this God would respect the fact that I required proof and evidence and held sacred the ability to logic and reason.

 

4.  Without God, where did you get your morality from?  Morality is ever changing.  Societies morals have evolved and have superseded those of even the Gods.  God nor his Jesus ever condemned slavery and instead supported it.  Morals and ethics can be found in 1000’s of species and to think that your morals, that the human species morals come from a God is ignorant, in fact insane.  Would you rape and murder if today you found out that there was no God?  Probably not, or at least I hope not.  I’ve ranted in depth on this before, but it’s your group, your religious nutters, specifically the christians who have the highest rates of teen pregnancy, spouse abuse, incarcerations and sexually transmitted diseases and if you’re morals are superior and from a divine source, shouldn’t we expect to see the opposite?

 

5.  If there is no god, can we do what we want?  Are we free to murder and rape?  While good deeds go unrewarded?

 

Really, what the actual fuck?  Yes, with or without a god you are free to rape and murder.  Fortunately for us, evolution has created us as a social species which thrive on the ability to get along.  With or without your God those who don’t lend to safety and harmony in our societies are removed or expelled.  No good deed is unrewarded.  We all feel good when we help another.  This is reward enough for me.  I don’t rape and I don’t murder, not for the promise of heavenly reward or fear of eternal hell fire, I don’t rape and I don’t murder because I can’t.  I’m not capable, naturally, biologically, morally and ethically, I can’t do it.  Only a sociopath would require the aid of imaginary reward and punishments to curtail a desire to harm another.

 

6.  If there is no god, how does your life have any meaning?  Again, we are a social species.  I enjoy the company of others, I love helping my fellowman, I love sunsets, friends, family, my children, bourbon and Krispy Kreme donuts among many many other things.  This is more than enough to overwhelm my life in meaning.  I require no prize at the end, no fanciful tale of gold streets and mansions and naked cherubs playing shitty music.  I am here now and I’m enjoying every second.

 

7.  Where did the universe come from?  I love this one, because although most of these questions are ignorant, this one is super duper ignorant.  So there is no god, then where did the universe come from.

 

Well let’s say you could prove a god made the universe.  Now which God would it be.  You still have everything left.  You’ve accomplished nothing.  Proving someone made the universe still doesn’t add any credibility to your horrid little god concept.

 

But to answer, scientists are still searching, testing and studying and each day brings us more information and more data.  We’ve only mapped a portion of the universe and of that it’s still shrouded in complexities.  The current accepted theory is that there was a big bang of sorts.  There is mountains of evidence to validate it as well.  But still they continue to learn more and hopefully one day we will understand better.

 

At one point and time a bunch of semi literate goat fuckers thought there was a firmament or covering above the earth and that the starlight was holes in that firmament, they also thought the sun revolved around the earth, they thought the thunder meant God was mad, these same fucknuts are who wrote your holy books.  Yet today, most christians will rely upon the sciences for medical treatments and not sacrificing two goats and dove to Woogey Boogey Boo in the sky.

 

8.  What about miracles?  What about all the people who claim to have a connection with Jesus?  What about those who claim to have seen saints or angels?  If I may, I would like to answer with a question or two.

It’s a fact that where you are born will determine you’re religious beliefs, so why are we watching the Muslim religion explode in membership in the middle east if Jesus is who they see and feel in their sacred moments?  Why aren’t they seeing Jesus?  Why do the Hindus often see loved ones in cows, while Near Death Experiences for Muslims often entail Muhammad.  Bottom line, science has answered this, specifically neuro science.  Miracles don’t happen and if you prove one, please register to win the standing 1, Million dollar price from the JREF foundation.

 

People who believe in martians often see martians and people who believe in Muhammad often feel Muhammad.  It’s actually pretty simple.  We live in Jesusland and so it would be more of a miracle if your sheep’s brains didn’t deliver spiritual experiences with Jesus.

 

9.  What’s your view of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris?  Another easy one, just in case I wasn’t going to finish – I guess.  Well, I love them all.  I can’t say I agree with every single idea they pose, but all in all, they are and were 3 brilliant minds.  They are and have been critical of religious batshittery and do and have done their parts in making the world a better place for all.

 

10.  If there is no God, then why does every society have a religion?  Well you got me there.  1,000’s of societies and hundreds of Gods worshipped, which one is correct?  One day your god will be added to the myths of years gone by.  Gods and their religions came when mankind’s knowledge was at it’s weakest.  When not a single person knew to wash his hands after wiping his own ass.  Mankind has always wanted answers and for each gap that exists in our knowledge, man has invented Gods to feel the void.  Your God is on his last leg.  100’s of years have brought forth facts that have filled many of those gaps.  Your God has precious few left.  And when he’s out of gaps, he’ll be out of the minds and humanity will be all the better for it.

 

Your question isn’t a bragging point, it’s an embarrassment to humanity.  It’s proof that many will stop at nothing to satisfy the egos desire to know something or at least think they do.

 

Now you see clearly I’ve answered all those questions you ignorantly assumed unanswerable.  Of course if you had an IQ higher than a plant you could have helped yourself to answers just like these by using the great and powerful wizard called Google.

 

Sadly though, your goal isn’t to get answers and it’s obvious in the mind numbing article you posted.  Your goal is to feed the sheep.  It’s to appear smart to the most ignorant among us.

 

Your goal is to pitch a strawman to your sheep as if it’s evidence for belief.  How awfully fragile ones faith must be that you dare not look anything up before infecting others with your nonsense, you refuse to debate, listen to or respond to the myriad of facts that annihilate your position.

 

This is immoral and unethical.  Your goal is to gain followers, sell shirts and swag that demonstrate the worst humanity has to offer.  Fuck you, from the bottom of my feet to the top of my head, fuck you.  You are nothing more than a dishonest 2 bit self aggrandizing carney hocking your stupidity to those you find are more stupid than you.

 

You could end it all, if only you could provide any evidence for your invisible friend on high. But there is no evidence and from you and others like you, we can only expect more insane, illogical and straw man fallacies for the duration.  This infuriates me, it angers me to my core.  It’s not that you’re an imbecile, it’s that you feed that insatiable ego by harming and deluding others.

 

So again, fuck you!  And although you may never read, listen or respond, some of your followers will and hopefully some will raise their heads to view further than the sheeps asshole in front of them.