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077 – Incest- Can’t Make A Quirky Title With That Topic…

Thanks to the Duggar diddling, we decided to dedicate this episode to the subject of incest.

Professor Stephen Fulminates
There is a bit of anger in this one. The Prof fulminates on incest and christianity. The bible is inconsistent on the subject, and christian apologists end up invoking moral relativism. Intellectual incest amongst crazy American christians leads to actual incest and other terrible behavior.

Lets Talk About Incest
Rachel and Professor Stephen discuss the science, morality, and christian theology of incest and inbreeding. And this leads to a discussion about the crazy racists shit that some fundamentalists spew.

Voicemails, Emails, and Facebook Messages
Thank you all so much for your messages. They mean the world to us. Except for that one. You know who you are.

Another Episode of The Skeptic
Doctor Woo is at it again. This time he is scamming the good people of Catfish Creek Trailer Park. Brought to you by Holy Hoodeewhos!

Rachel Gets Ready to Thow Down Over Dinosaur Soft Tissue
Iron can work as a preservative, so STFU. Rachel answers back to ridiculous creationist comments.

Crazy Preacher Calls In to Call us Out Again
Duncan Waters tries to school us on some bible science, but his grandson fucks it up again.

Jay Joins In
Jason Comeau (Pastor Jay) joins us to talk about incest in the bible, porn, role-play, morality, and human sexuality in general.

Biblical Marriage
Jason schools us atheists on biblical marriage. How is a good bible-believer to get rid of a hated wife? Don’t bother getting married anyway, because Jesus is coming back.

Fallacy Roundup
Jason and Professor Stephen go through some common logical fallacies and talk about how they have seen them used (also incest jokes).

Pastor Jonathan Calls In
And stutters a lot.

The Catfish Creek Community Report
Pastor Roy is away on a mission, but the report continues.

The Snake Oil Science Woo Woo Segment – Oscillococcinum
Rachel is amazed by the ridiculousness when Professor Stephen expounds on the ludicrous history and preparation of this expensive, useless nostrum.

 

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014 – Sexpisode One – God Condones Rape

God explains rape in the bibleThis is our very first Sexpisode and we cover just about everything that God says about sex.  What does god say about sex?

Would you believe it if I told you that God condones rape?  What about incest?

What better way to get a wife than to rape her, pay her dad 50 shekels of silver and wallah – a marriage made in heaven.

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My morals come from the Bible, how can you have morals without God?  You’ve heard it, I’ve heard it and it’s as ignorant as breathing at an oxygen bar and wondering how others get their oxygen without it.

 

I have questions for you; Without god or his book, would you rape?  If God told you tonight to go into a maternity ward and kill all the babies, would you?

 

God explicitly condones rape in the Bible.  He condones incest, he uses rape as a means to obtain a wife.  The Bible and the Bible God are immoral in their teachings and humanities morals have superseded this corrupt invisible sky daddy in every way.

 

Tonight you shall hear from your own book, from your Gods own infallible instruction manual.  How will you choose to act knowing that your God endorses rape as a reward and as a means to broaden your polygamous lifestyle?  Will you ignore it or will you make feeble and transparent attempts to rationalize the horror that is your God’s morals?

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Pope Francis is a marketing genius.  His new message: ““Through humility, soul searching, and prayerful contemplation we have gained a new understanding of certain dogmas. The church no longer believes in a literal hell where people suffer. This doctrine is incompatible with the infinite love of God. God is not a judge but a friend and a lover of humanity. God seeks not to condemn but only to embrace. Like the fable of Adam and Eve, we see hell as a literary device. Hell is merely a metaphor for the isolated soul, which like all souls ultimately will be united in love with God”

He goes on to say that all religions are true.

This is horseshit!  Next thing we’ll see is the coexist bumper sticker on the pope mobile.  A bumper sticker I despise.  It’s happy rhetoric but is impossible when the holy books of religious zealots are at odds with each other and command the death of infidels.  Yes, the bible says that and so does the Quran.  The Pope knows this, the pope is a masterful salesman and his membership base has dwindled.  Tithes have slowed and the Billions they have are at stake.  If the Pope is so concerned about humanity, then why not send food, supplies, medical aid to Haiti and the Philipines?  Fuck no, instead he sent rosary beads.  And not the edible type, just the hard plastic ones.  This is the same pope that Excommunicated a Priest Who Supports Women’s Ordination a couple of months ago.  

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Paul Crouch, the TBN – Praise Tha Lord co founder has died.  He actually died last month, but somehow are research interns missed it.  Thanks to Big Bang Betty McGee for the tip. For over 60 years Paul raped the purses and wallets of his followers.  You may remember Paul when he made National Headlines for paying an employee 425,000 in hush money.  Apparently Enoch Ford was forced to have sex with Paul to keep his job.  Ford even stated on Natl. TV that he’d undergo a public lie detector test live to validate his claims.  Instead Paul and his wife, the look exactly like Tammy Fae Baker – Jan Crouch decided it better to pay him almost a half million dollars.

 

The morning after the first but sex in the church cabin, paul crouch read his victim the scripture containing the 7 detestable sins according to God.  Among those is not – homosexuality and he assured the man that because of that, they were ok in what they had done the previous night.

Crouch never admitted to the acts but did confirm that the money given to Ford was an act of Christian Love.

 

Sex & the Bible:

 

First mention of sexual intercourse is here: Gen 4:1  Adam knew his wife and she conceived

 

Then the bible records the sex of Cain, then Adam and eve again then we get to 4:25 and gods angels have sex with man’s daughters producing the Nephilim.  Giants.

 

Then Genesis 6:9 / 7:1 and then onto 9:20-25  where Noah gets drunk and naked, ham his son sees his nakedness and for whatever crime, which the bible doesn’t state exactly what Ham did to his dad in this drunken state, but he was cursed forever.

 

Then Pharaoh adds Sarai to his harem in ch 12:15 who is barren, Note: never is a man barren, it’s always the women

 

In ch 17 vs 10 god notices he added a bit too much skin to the male genitalia and commands Abraham and everyone from then on to remove this foreskin – he hides his mistake by saying it’s a covenant between you and him.

 

Abrahams sister and wife Sarah is 90 she asks if she will have pleasure with her husband and get preggers, God says yes.

 

Then we have the story of Lot – Genesis 19  (tell story)

 

Genesis 24:2-9 God commands Abraham to command a servant to hold his testacles in his hand.

 

We first find that God loves the virgins in 24:14-17

 

The faithful Jacob who the lord loved is tricked into sleeping with Laban’s daughter, but not the one he wanted so ultimately he gets to sleep with both…  29:21-30

 

The wrong daughter, Leah want’s to one up the right daughter Rachel and so she gives Jacob her maid Zilpah and Jacob fucks her and she bears a son.  30:9

 

Rachel wants some mandrakes so she trades with Leah and Leah and Jacob must have sex to seal the deal.  30/ 15-16  What the fuck are mandrakes you ask.  Well its a plant that has hallucinogenic effects and rachel wanted to party.

 

38:15 Judah saw a lady with a veil, he thought she was a harlot, he asked her to sleep with him, she did and conceived.  Turns out, she was his daughter in law.  Those goddamned veils.

 

Genesis is ripe with sex and shows that God really doesn’t have any rules, he blesses the righteous men with many many women.

 

In Leviticus 15:16 God gives instructions for what to do if a man has a wet dream.  2 verses later, god says that if a women is on her period she is unclean and should leave for 7 days.

 

If a man has sex with a women on her period they both shall be banned for life.  Lev 20:18

 

Leviticus is awesome.  In chapter 20 God gives commands for those that violate the rules:  See #60 and on. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/long.html

 

RAPE:

Numbers 31: 1-54 is a long story, but the gist is God want’s the Meianites dead but he commands that they save all the virgin women for themselves, you know, sex slaves.

 

Deut 21:11-14

See a women you like, take her home and go unto her, if you don’t like her, then just let her go.  But don’t sell her, because you have raped “humbled” her and she must go free.  Or you can keep her for your wife forever.

 

If you make a women your wife by force and decide later that you just don’t like her and in fact hate her:  Do this:  http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/22.html#13

 

  1. If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn’t cry out loud enough, then “the men of the city shall stone her to death.” 22:23-24

 

  1. If a woman is raped in the country, then only the man shall die (since there was no one to hear her if she cried out.) 22:25
  1. If a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her. 22:28

 

  1. You can’t go to church if your testicles are damaged or your penis has been cut off. 23:1

More wet dream rules: 1. God lays down the law regarding wet dreams. “If there be among you any man that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night …” 23:10

 

  1. If a man dies without having a child, his brother shall “go in unto” his dead brother’s wife — whether she likes him or not, and whether she wants to or not. If he refuses, the dead man’s wife is to loosen his shoe and spit in his face. 25:5-10

 

If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the “secrets” of the other, “then thou shalt cut off her hand” and “thine eye shall not pity her.” 25:11-1

 

If God doesn’t like you, he will allow another man to sleep with your wife: Deut 28:30

 

The man of god, Samson has a wife, he refers to her as his heifer and accuses the Philistines of having sex with her or “plowing with his heifer” Judges 14:18

 

An angel gets a women pregnant while her husband isn’t around.  Judges 13:6

Angel rape.  Apparently she gets pregnant and has a child, they offer the child as a sacrifice and burn it with a meat offering.

 

We literally could go on for hours, the point being, God himself gave mankind rules and then examples of the rules in action for us adhere to.

 

There is no doubt that rape is ok, there is no doubt that forcing marriage is ok, there is no doubt that God is insanely immoral. What’s more likely:

1.  There is a moral God and he did bad things for a little while?

2.  That there is no God and man made all this shit up?  That immoral and sadistic men, males specifically made a god to feet their immoral lives?

 

The song of solomon is pornographic poem.

 

Isaiah 20:2-5 God commands that Isaiah walk around completely naked for 3 years.

 

Hosea 3:1-2 God commands Hosea to love an adulteress.

 

 

1 Corinthians 7:3-5 ESV / 155 helpful votes

The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

Proverbs 5:18-19 ESV / 149 helpful votes

Let your fountain be blessed, and rejoice in the wife of your youth, a lovely deer, a graceful doe. Let her breasts fill you at all times with delight; be intoxicated always in her love

In context: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%207&version=ESV

 

Note: this is new testament shit

 

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206&version=ESV  Note: vs 9 warns agains homosexuality 18 starts about masturbation

 

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 ESV / 89 helpful votes

For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;

Colossians 3:5 ESV / 66 helpful votes

Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Here is compares sexual immorality with idolatry which is just coveting something someone else has, (the driving force of capitalism)

 

Let’s talk about the New Testament a bit.

In Matthew 5:28 Jesus says that if you lust after a woman that you have already committed adultery.  So here we have “thought” crime.  You can be convicted on your thoughts alone.

 

Something interesting.  Why wouldn’t God make us so that innately we desired only one woman or one man?  It’s the opposite though.  Instead he gives us desires to spread our seed, he creates attraction and sexual desire but then bans it and punishes you for doing exactly what he created you to do.

 

A preacher once told me that it’s because of free will that god didn’t just make us abhor the thought of another sexual partner.

 

Well if that’s the case, then why do humans not innately want to murder their fellowman?  Why do we not have that great task to achieve as well.  Using the preachers logic, isn’t God withholding our freewill here?  Why didn’t he make us want to kill others while requiring we ignore the temptation?

 

5: 29 Jesus says we must pluck out our eyes and cut off our hands to avoid sin.  He recommends this to avoid sin.  Wouldn’t that be cheating?  If there was a God and god said don’t look upon another woman or you have sinned and the wages of sin is death and eternal hellfire, wouldn’t you be the wiser to pluck from your head, your eyeballs?  I think that’s cheating if you do.  You’ve avoided the temptation that your sight instigates.

 

He also recommends that we remove our testicals to become Unichs.  What a recommendation?  Cut off your sex organs.  Jesus is full of cheat codes for getting into heaven.

 

Romans 1:27 Paul explains that the natural use of women is as sex machines.

 

7:5 tells women and men it is better to abstain from sex all together but do it if it helps you avoid sin.

 

IN 7:9 he warns that the end is near and it be better if they don’t marry or have sex    Jesus is coming back very very soon.

 

Galatians 5:12 Paul again says it’s better to castrate yourselves than sin

 

The bible also condones polygamy and even polyamory.  Genesis tells of the concubines of Abraham, the father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.  I would like to point out that Abraham’s sister was his wife, she was said to be barren, although she did have a child yet she allowed her handmade, Hagar have sex with Abraham.

 

Gideon had “many” wives.

Ashur had wives.

Rehoboam, Abijah, Jehoiada, Solomon, Elkanah all had multiple wives.

 

1 Samuel 18:1-3
Now it came about when he had finished speaking to Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself. And Saul took him that day and did not let him return to his father’s house. Then Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself.

Jonathan also makes a covenant with David:

1 Samuel 20:16-17
So Jonathan made a covenant with the house of David, saying, “May the LORD require it at the hands of David’s enemies.” And Jonathan made David vow again because of his love for him, because he loved him as he loved his own life.

And later, when Jonathan is killed, David laments his loss with these words:

2 Samuel 1:25-26
“How have the mighty fallen in the midst of the battle! Jonathan is slain on your high places. I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; You have been very pleasant to me. Your love to me was more wonderful than the love of women.”

 

 

I can hear it now:  But Jesus came and got rid of all that bad stuff and we are under a new covenant.

 

No, no we’re not.  Let’s see what Jesus says about it and fortunately he says it without parable and is to the point.

 

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished.  Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”  (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)  Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself.  None other then Jesus said so.

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever.  “It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.”  (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets.  He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament.  “Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.  Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.”  (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

3b) “All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness…”  (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

3c) “Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.” (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law.  Mark.7:9-13  “Whoever curses father or mother shall die”  (Mark 7:10 NAB)

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating.  He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.”  (Matthew 15:4-7)

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole.  The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell.  (Matthew 5:27)

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.”  This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,…” (John 1:17).

9) “…the scripture cannot be broken.” –Jesus Christ, John 10:35

 

The holy book is a whole book.  You cherry picking motherfuckers make transparent attempts to grab only the bits you like.  I have a challenge for you.  Find me one good bit that Christ offered.  Find me one fucking thing that you consider to be moral.

 

There isn’t another book on the planet as vile and contemptible, as crude and immoral as the Bible.  Yet Christians everywhere brag and boast of reading it.  They even demand their children read it.  Yet few actually do.

 

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