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066 – Not Alone – Mormon Sex Guilt – TAG – Special Guests

Professor Stephen was loaned a camera so we could see his pretty face, Terrie Torgerson Peterson graced us along with Mr. Dave Foda.  Dave got deep as he dosed out the unintellectual aspects of Matt Slick’s arguments especially his use of TAG.  Dave also explained knowledge which I slept through because I’m so goddamned smart already.

FFRF Member & Avid CyclistTerrie of Amateur Skeptics and Velotry fame joined us for what was going to be an hour and thankfully stayed the entire 4+ hours.  Not only did she discuss masturbation on her bicycle, she brought up some topics that I hope become more prominent in the future.

1.  Masturbation guilt
2.  Healthy Living without Fat Shaming
3.  I believe a topic started by Dune, the fact that there simply aren’t enough women in the movement, nor are other minorities being served equally.

As usual, in my attempts to feed my ego, I play the class clown and interrupt continuously in order to restore the unprofessionalism you’ve come to expect. Pastor Roy breaks in twice to deliver his weekly Prayer Request and Community Report.  In this weeks community report he shares a vision he had that is a must listen.

Dune and a couple other listeners called in to share.  Dune is another one who should be followed.  She is a fantastic intellectual who you’ll find in the chatroom on Monday nights.

The New Computer and Peripherals

Thanks to someone awesome, I won’t mention names, but it starts with a K and ends with an onrad, Professor Stephen will soon have a new MAC on which to deliver his Snake Oil Science Woo Woo.  Fortunately the needed peripherals are becoming a reality thanks to many of you who have donated to his fundraiser.  There is still a few hundred bucks left to meet the goal if you want to help out.  http://www.gofundme.com/CompforProfStephen 

The Rant

You try wearing the shirt around for a day.  If you think for a second that Atheists aren’t the ones being persecuted and kept silent, then fuck you.  Wear the god damned shirt.  Go get a shirt that says I’m an Atheist and wear that bitch around town.

 

When I started this podcast I hoped that I’d be able to affect change, that’d I’d be able to help others, that I’d leave a legacy, although much smaller and insignificant as some person’s scientific breakthrough or discovery, I wanted to make a ripple that even if no one knew who the fuck it was that started by, that at least there would be one and that my ripple would affect humanity in a positive way.

Since inception the podcast has changed forms but has mostly been a bunch of horse shit around some great content that my co host Professor Stephen delivers.

But what’s happened is I’ve heard from many fans and of those the majority share their experiences coming out, the pain, the agony, the losses, the hurt, the depression, the emotionally whirl wind that coming out causes to many.

 

Not a few, but many.  Many have like me, lost family, lost friends and have retreated back to their closets.  Even I still use a pseudonym to protect my family and livelihood from what the Christians can do.

 

By simply denying to believe in their particular and one of many imaginary friends, I and many of you have become outcasts and considered vile among those we once counted as friends.

Religion has convinced it’s adherents to believe that only they are the purveyors of morality.  Mention that in Pakistan females can’t show the bottoms of their feet or wear eyeliner without being deemed a temptress worthy of death, mention that to shave your beard in certain Amish cultures or Jewish cultures is as immoral as fucking a goat and you will hear something about their morals being incorrect, because our morals are from the correct religion.

 

Fuck me, you can corner them with the First Baptists believe it’s immoral to drink and they’ll say well it’s because the second baptists know what God desires and they are just plain wrong.

 

Today my goddamned fucktarded mother called.  I have 4 girls out of the house, all went to school, all are still in school or graduated now from college except one who’s in the military.

 

One daughter in particular knows who the fuck she is and doesn’t give two shits if you know it.  Today my mother after seeing a facebook picture from another family member that somehow was accidentally overlooked from the facebook blocking feature, sent my mom a screenshot.  Several screen shots actually.

 

This is what happens, this is because they didn’t have the values instilled in them that you got son.  My little soft spoken molly mormon mom continued about how my daughters look like whores and sluts.  yes, she actually used those two words to describe her own granddaughter.

 

Well what is a whore mom?  Someone that had sex more than you?

 

Oh, no, it’s what the lord considers an immoral person for having sex with multiple people.

 

Gritting my teeth and attempting to speak she has some sharp tactics.  She’ll either hang up the phone or she’ll say, I must go, I’ll call you back.  It’s the….. Listen to what I have to say but I don’t want a response    Mantra.

 

But mom, you show your face in public, you don’t wear a head covering of any sort and I’ve seen you walk around barefooted…

 

What are you talking about she said.

 

Well 1.6 billion muslims and most would consider you a whore and a slut for daring to walk around without a head covering.

 

Well that’s because they have false gods.  You’ll understand when you’re my age.  I have much more life experience than you.  It’s why one of your children has a baby out of wedlock, it’s why another one posts immoral stuff online, it’s why they don’t respect others with their words…. they just use so much fowl language.

 

You’ll see one day, she says.

 

I ask, so can you explain to me how sex is immoral.  I’ve got to go – click.

 

That’s a typical conversation.  Always starts off kind, but usually ends with her hanging up after I attempt a rebuttal.

 

I so – want to say that to her, I want to ask her how that all worked out for her.  Me and my 5 siblings were raised in a ultra conservative mormon family.  How’d that work out?

I’m a goddamned atheist, next one only started attending church when she realized she could use the church welfare system for her 6 very young children, another hasn’t stepped foot in a church since he was 16 and moved out because he worships a different Jesus than the mormons, One is dead because he enjoyed life a bit much and made a stupid decision in his early 20’s, the only 2 left are adults, married with children and rely on you and dad to take care of them.  They aren’t even capable of being self sufficient.

 

So how the fuck did you do?

 

Goddammit I remember as a teen, the chaos that would ensue when a upstanding mormon family teen would make a mistake that got out.  Oh, well that family didn’t really obey the entire gospel.  I saw sister smurkle drink a pepsi one time at a ball game or they didn’t force their kids to go to seminary and that’s what happens.  Now they have a cigarette smoker.

 

I’m not exaggerating and usually these would lead to a goddamn family meeting where we must discuss this horrible act and why this won’t happen to our family, we are on the straight and narrow path to heaven.  Do not let yourself get sucked in by these families that are being destroyed from rebellious teens.

 

My fathers words exactly:  “I’d sooner take you out in the woods and kill you than to watch you drag your siblings to hell.”

 

Of course my mother has 20 years on me and is much much wiser so she knows best.

 

And no matter, where you are in America, if you make it known you don’t believe in their imaginary friend, then you are probably evil.  You’ve probably made a deal with Satan himself.

 

The religious have no idea the environment we face when coming out.  They are far too busy claiming they are being persecuted.  The facts are they are doing the persecuting and if you call them out on it, then By God you are fucking persecuting them.

How dare you call out their racism, their bigotry and misogyny.  You fucking worthless heathens, breathing our air, living in the united states of jesus, how dare you.

 

Even still many atheists don’t get it.  They are part of the very elite minority of atheists raised in freethinking homes, usually up north or out west who haven’t even a clue of the abuse by indoctrination of society in the bible belt states.

 

We have these good christians, those empowered with the love of christ, yes we forgive you for fucking the neighbor child, yes we forgive you for beating your wife again, yes we forgive you stealing church funds, but goddamn you to hell if you don’t believe in the woogey bogey boo in the sky.

 

Here in these obnoxiously infected states with the most credulous bigots on the planet, dare you attempt to start a life as a freethinker, a humanitarian an atheist.  You would fare better had you broke in and had sex with his prize coon dog.

 

These fucknuts find it impossible to comprehend that anyone deny the existence of their invisible friend.

 

We are the ones surrounded by this nonsense and most of us are eat up with Christian friends, until, until that fucking day when we realize it’s all horse shit.  Some quietly, some boldly come out but we all lose our lives as we know them.

 

I’ve shared some of the emails received, fuck, your life partner, your spouse, the co producer of your children can and will make a 180 degree turn if you are found to disbelieve.

 

No credit is given, no rope, just ousted.  We are a small podcast and still I receive letters that make my heart ache, make my stomach turn and my eyes leak.

 

It’s not fair, it’s not right and if these Christians were even a half a rat turds worth what they say they are and stand for, it wouldn’t happen.  But your denouncement challenges their entirety.

 

You’ve just forsaken the human race as far as they are concerned.  But my fellow friends and family who like me have been shunned, disowned and demonized… I am your family, I am your friend and love you, Yes I fucking do!

 

And so there is no misunderstanding, I don’t love you like the stalker outside Britany Spears home, I don’t love you like the christian does, I don’t love you like your mom and dad.  I fucking really love you.  You are what keeps me sane.

 

Many of us know what you’re going through, we feel your pain and we share it with you.  But you are not alone.  I know if you are living in a country like the US or the Middle East you may think you are alone, but you are not alone.  We may never meet in person and I may never get to hug your neck, but you are loved and you are not alone.

 

Search us out, there are many more like us.  Find safe ways to connect, find smart ways to reach out and find us.  There’s facebook, theirs ex, this and ex that groups all over and then there is most likely a humanist, atheist or freethinking group near you too.  Colleges and universities have groups as well.

 

I hold no value in biological family, that’s the luck of the draw.  Sure it’d be nice to be able to love and get along with them all, but I have no power against their entitled and willful ignorance.  My family is you.  And That you can take to the bank.

 

Eventually this all will get better, it may be 200 fucking years from now, but what you do today, how strong you are today will go along ways towards that goal.  Let’s push, pull tug and fight the ignorance, let’s encourage freethought and save the fucking world.

 

I love you.

 

044 – THAT’S A SIN BECAUSE I SAID SO

I told you not to wipe your ass.  I told you not to pick your nose.  Those are sins before the eyes of the Lord.  And if you had been raised to think that, you’d probably experience guilt each time you did it.

God, via the Holy Ghost man would lay it upon your heart that it was wrong and you’d feel like shit.  It’s how that sin thing works.  In some countries, it is a sin to show the bottoms of your feet, it’s a sin to be female and without a father or brother to accompany you to the store, it’s even a sin to drive if you have a vagina.

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You’ll hear my nine cents worth in the beginning as I rant about what sin is.  I am often argued that I became Atheist because I wanted to sin.  Makes as much sense as going to school for 9 years and obtain my Doctorate in Medicine so I can get a fancy lab coat.

[RANT]

You’re an atheist because you want to sin and are attempting to escape the guilt.  But what sin are you wanting to commit?  Masturbation?  You want to watch porn?  You want to drink and cuss?

 

So really what other sin as you call it could I possibly justify if I didn’t have an invisible voyeur on high watching my every move?

 

You can’t possibly list real crimes, you know murder, rape, thievery, arson etc… These are prohibited now by our governments, federal and local.  And regardless some criminal codes to deter the would-be criminals, per capita – the religious hold the longstanding record of the most incarcerations and convictions for these acts.

 

It appears that the secularists and the immoral atheists make up less than 1 percent of the prison populations.  The moral sky daddy is in no way curbing or deterring the acts of crimes by the faithfully devout.

 

So where’s the value in believing?

 

Now let me take you back to the other sins as you refer, masturbation, pornography, drinking and cussing.  What makes these a sin?  Cussing, sure – depending on what spot of the ground I stand, whether it be the UK or the US, those words may not be considered derogatory or curse words at all.  I’ve addressed this previously and your holy books make no statement either way.

So all we have are some words that some religious nutters have deemed curse words.  They are nothing more than sounds produced that at sometime, somewhere a zealous nutter declared offensive.

A christian in the UK or in Australia wouldn’t deem our curse words as vile or contemptible and vice versa, their slang like “Donga” or “Moooo” would have no effects here and wouldn’t even rattle the blue hairs down at the local Jesus Saves Obama is Satan – Pentecostal Full Gospel Holy Roller Church of the Mesiah.

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So that leaves us with masturbation and pornography.  Masturbation is the act of stimulating your own genitals, usually to the point of orgasm.  This process harms no one and in fact has the opposite effects.  It’s been studied and the science is very clear, Masturbation lowers our blood pressure and our bodies produce endorphins that ease stress and cause us to relax.

 

Females can masturbate during their periods to ease pain by increasing the blood flow to the pelvic region.  It’s also been shown to decrease headaches and athritis pain.

 

Masturbation helps flush the cervix of old bacteria and can help prevent UTI’s

 

Masturbation to orgasm releases a hormone called cortisol which can strengthen your immune system as well.

 

So what are the negative side affects of masturbation?  None!  Even the Bible is painfully absent any dictates on this sinful act.

 

So where does it come from?  Where did the Religious Fucknuts come up with this prohibition against pleasuring ones self?

 

In Genesis Ch 38, Onan, who is Judah’s son is told by the Lord to go have sex with his brother’s wife so that she could bear children.  He does but each time he pulls out and spills his seed on the floor.  This pissed God right on off and so god kills Onan.  (There ya have it, God doesn’t like you to ejaculate onto the floor) It’s much better to put your dick and semen into your brother’s wife.

 

From only two verses, which are very clear that God was only pissed off about Onan not obeying him, but the Christards have extracted the:  Don’t fucking masturbate Goddammit.

It’s obvious God doesn’t give two shits whether you masturbate or not, because since the story of Onan, he’s not struck down one person for the act.  Of course to be fair, I’m only looking at the past 6000 years, so there could have been an incident that wasn’t recorded.

 

God however does give two more commands regarding nighttime emissions.

The first: Leviticus 15:16 – If a man has an emission of semen he shall bathe his whole body in water and will remain unclean until the evening

 

and then in Deut 23:10 If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp: 11But it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again.

 

Not one fucking word in the entire Bible about Masturbation!  Some Religitards will pull out Galatians 5:16 that says that you must walk by the Spirit and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.  Does that mean eating, or just eating while walking or does it involve walking but having an itch on your neck but you must stop to  scratch it first?  Fleshly desires, well wouldn’t that encompass putting on makeup, getting your nails and hair did and wearing your best?   These all are desires of the flesh.

 

If this is the argument, it’s weak, fuck – it’s literally non existent.  God doesn’t say anything about masturbation.

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It’s all about control.  It’s control over people by placing demands and making sins out of natural things in order to promote fear and unworthiness.

 

over at Bible.org there is an article explaining the problems with masturbation…

  • 1. Psychic effects. Masturbation has a tendency to isolate its captives psychologically and socially. In masturbation, the person is focused on self-alone even though he or she usually is fantasizing about someone else at the same time.  (picking your nose)
    2. Emotional deprivation. It is impossible for the one who is practicing this habit to experience the full extent of sex emotions. Therefore, in short-circuiting the emotions one can easily be removed from the world of reality.  Reality being what, one man one woman?  Wouldn’t that remove you from the world of a threesome reality?
    3. Damaged sensibility. The habit of masturbation has a tendency in numbing the mechanism of the sexual organs if practiced excessively. This lessens the sensibility and thus detracts from normal sexual relations of married life. (Are we talking calluses here?  Penis or Bean calluses from excessive masturbation?  Has they never heard of lube.  KY Jelly, it’s not just for biscuits.  What exactly is the amount of masturbation one can do without causing desensitizing?  Hold on a God Damned minute.  Isn’t it you religious fucknuts who started this genital mutilation deal and even upon the evidence that proves it desensitizes the genitals – still systematically defend the procedure?
    4. Self-gratification. The emotional background of self-gratification is not the least bit healthy and usually militates against the home, wife and family because it is focused only on self.  ( Can the same be said for eating, smoking, swimming or fishing)
    5. Control of the mind. Along with the act of masturbation comes the fantasy of the mind. When practiced often, a pattern or cycle seems to become established within the individual’s mind. Thus, perversion has a tendency to control the mind and this in turn initiates the act. The real danger lies in the guilt that increases as the individual dwells in this world of fantasy.  (ah, so the real danger is the guilt from having the fantasies – Wasn’t it you fucktarded scum that made fantasy into some sort of sin in the first place? So you are directly responsible for the guilt of billions of people – all for doing something that is completely normal and natural.

Pornography:  The bible does have some things to say about porn, but only if you have a very open mind and consider nakedness porn.  God paints with a broad brush here.  He uses the words or what we now translate to mean: Sexual Immorality.   Of course keep in mind, according to God, it’s not – let me repeat, it’s Not immoral to rape a girl as long as you pay her father some money.

http://www.openbible.info/topics/pornography

 

It was not immoral to take on some sex slaves from neighboring villages and in fact God commanded it.

But Jesus changed all that right…Hell fire, according to Jesus in Matthew 5:28, it is a crime, a sex crime to look upon a woman with lust.

 

See the problem is that God didn’t realize we’d create cameras and so when the camera was invented, the miracles stopped and the porn started.  The bible uses terms like evil ways and wickedness, but nowhere does it state that pornography, nor masturbation is bad, evil or wicked.

 

These are all the calculated contrivances of the holy men who use their status to make you feel worthless and unworthy.  How can they sale you a cure if the sickness isn’t among you. That’s right, create the sickness.

 

As I ranted with my ice cream analogy in the past, these fuck nuts needed something as common as breathing and as natural as air.  But it needed to be something that you could possibly live without but had an innate propensity towards.

 

Just as the preachers in the 60’s said Rock Music was of the devil these new ideas are placed solely for the purpose of making you feel like less of a person.

 

anti-masturbation-device-french-c1880See there!  What now is sin and why do I need an invisible sky daddy to keep me from it?  What harm comes from your definition of sin?  Sin is but a word used to control the weakest of minds.  It’s a tool used by the churches and it’s leaders to oppress and control.

 

So to you Mr. Christian Fucktard – consider now that your God gave a new edict against beef.  Beef and it’s consumption is now a sin, it’s evil and even your thought of eating a grilled steak shall be the same as your eating it.

 

Much like the Hindus and the Jains, Beef is forbidden.  McDonalds and Burger King are but the ploys of Satan.  Lucifer himself has placed these into our world and is using their slick marketing, their delicious smells and soft buns to trick you.  It’s a slippery slope which can start with the harmless beef bullion flavored soup and eventually you’ll be wanting to have sex with rabid squirrels.

 

Westboro baptist will be picketing burger chains nationwide and you my dear son can follow the ways of the world or you can follow Jesus Christ.  Not one word about Christ eating beef so it must be wrong.

 

Teach a child this growing up, solidify his beliefs with adults who reiterate the importance of avoiding beef in his schooling and you’ll end up with a nation who believes beef is a sin.

Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman and their ilk will push for Nationwide bans on this devilish meat.

 

This may sound funny and a tad ridiculous but it’s no different than the edicts against masturbation, pornography, drinking or cursing.   Yes, too much of about anything can cause problems, but we aren’t talking levels of consumption, we are talking about any consumption at all.  You could rub your bean so much it becomes raw and sore, you could drink too much and die, you could look at porn so much you are late for work, but the same would apply to the Bible.

 

None of these things practiced in moderation or in safe manners will cause harm or risk harm to others.  Of course there are a few exceptions with alcohol but again, Christianity is split on the consumption and both have nothing from the bible in which to validate their position.

 

The bottom line is I’m a fucking atheist, I’m an atheist because I don’t find nor have been offered any demonstrable evidence for your god or any other.  I escaped, however late the indoctrination I received as a child and the social acceptance of a Christian God as an adult.  I am free!

 

I didn’t get mad at God, I didn’t want to weasel my way out of being responsible for my sins and I didn’t want to follow this new intellectually superior crowd of secular humanists.  I’m an atheist because I required evidence and I put a higher value on my brain and it’s capabilities than to relinquish all to what should be a sin – Faith.

 

I chose reason over faith, I chose to question instead of blindly follow and I chose humanities morals over Gods.  I could no longer stand the cognitive dissonance of believing that God was all loving yet condoned slavery and wouldn’t save a child from abuse.

 

My atheism is the default position.  It’s not statement of fact, it’s not a denouncement of God, it’s a disbelief due to the sheer absence of evidence otherwise.

 

If it makes you feel better to say that I just wanted to sin, if my condoning of marriage equality and safe sex practiced freely among consenting adults outside the bounds of your holy matrimony are what you consider sins and your way to rationalize my disbelief, then I must say go for it.

 

How painfully fragile your faith must be.  How horribly weak is the foundation of your beliefs that you must build ad hominem attacks in order to survive my resistance to your faith.

 

jesus_watching_you_masturbate_classic_thongIf hell be real, then sin would not be strong enough bait for this devil you fear.  Among your fellow Christian brothers and sisters is the highest rates of divorce, child abuse, rape, adultery and gay porn.  If hell be real, then how come your friends resist not?

 

Equally your heaven although descriptively not appealing to me, is your reward and yet not strong enough to keep the sheep inline.  You have both, the reward and the punishment to keep you on the straight and narrow and yet statistically your group of Bigoted, Intolerant Pious Christians fail to abide by your own Goddamned rules.

 

 

Claiming that someone else’s personal  and unrelated actions are sins and against your religion is like being angry at me for eating a donut because you are on a diet.

 

So from the bottom of my balls to the tip of my penis, Fuck You.  Because your little pee brain can not comprehend why anyone would leave the strict and nonsensical ignorant belief systems you have chosen to adhere – that somehow we must have a demon within or desire to partake in your fake sins, then I pity you.  Well, I don’t really pity you, but I think you look like an ignorant asshole who’s IQ rivals the leather on my boots.

 

I do wish for you to think.  And from Thomas Jefferson, yes one of our Bible Pounding, In God We Trust, Christian Forefathers:  Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.

019 – Beth Presswood – Feminism – Masturbation – Sex Part II

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After Beth Presswood schooled us on Feminism and “context” we moved onward to the second part of our Sex discussions.  Every Monday you can join us live for the Sexpisodes.

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After hearing Love and I discuss feminism, Beth offered to help us understand it better.  She also explains the many varying degrees of feminism and it’s advocates.  From the “male to female sex is rape” to the “I am a feminist who supports equality among men and women”

I actually learned a lot and feel much more capable when discussing the topic.  Beth is a Tennessee native now residing in Austin, TX.  Beth is a member of the Atheist Community of Austin, wife of Matt Dillahunty and a huge voice in the secular community.  It was an honor to have her on the show.

You can find Beth on Facebook and follow her podcast, “Godless Bitches“.

Lets Talk About Sex – Baby

After last week and our discussion and scripture readings on what God has to say about sex, we explore Sexual Sin, Masturbation, Sex Addiction, Pornography and Control through Guilt on Sexpisode II.  Click play above.

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