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062 – Tracie Harris Noah Lugeons Dave Foda – Moral Dilemmas

Tracie Harris, Noah Lugeons and Dave Foda joined us live for this incredible discussion on Moral Dilemmas.

 

Imagine This

Runaway train is barreling out of control.  It’s path: 5 small children playing on the tracks ahead.  You are standing near the switch and can divert the train saving the children…. But this new path would send the train into broken down car with an elderly man inside… What do you do?

 

Moral Dilemmas!

 

You think you know… You’re probably thinking that saving the children is the best plan… and you may be right, but first consider this moral dilemma.

 

You come upon a bad wreck.  You find amongst the five lying helpless bodies that only one will survive.  The other 4 would only survive with the organs donated by the only one with a chance at surviving.

 

Do you sacrifice the one to save the 4?

 

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Rant

My fuck you rant is in response to a link the ignorant and zealous red hat on backwards Joshua Feuerstein posted up.  The link is from todaychristian.net and is the catalyst behind much of the stupidity spewing nonsense making headlines on facebook news feeds everywhere.

 

I mean he literally scours the inter webs for the most incredible stories and presents them as if he’s some wise reincarnate of christ.  One recently was of the little tick called a Fasuka.  Once popped it’s goo can be used to fix pottery.  Of course Lil Joshey says that it’s the blood of the Fasuka and he makes an attempt at allegory.  He describes christs blood being just like the Fasuka blood and can fix a person’s broken life.

 

Of course he gives credit for this marvelous discovery to the israelites from the bronze age periods.

 

Digging and finding nothing, I go to Reddit Skeptics and seek help.  Turns out there is no such creature, never was.  There is however an insect that the Native Americans used to repair pottery but all in all, the story Josh used is complete and utter bullshit.  It’s a modern Christian parable to demonstrate the “lamb of God”.

Now back to my rant…  10 questions for every atheist – questions atheists cannot truly and honestly really answer.  Yes, that’s the subtitle.

 

Ready…

1.  How did you become an atheist?  Well this is going to be easy, maybe the first question is just a teaser, you know like the hook used in sales pitches.  Well I read the goddamned bible and realized that the god I worshipped was not only unreliable and inconsistent, he was demonstrably evil.  He condoned slavery, child abuse, murder, genocide, rape and incest.  Any one of which would have been plenty, but thanks to the good book I had more than enough to encourage my further religious studies and eventually conclude there probably isn’t any gods and in fact it appears that they are all man made.  I can’t take credit for the english language or it’s words so once I decided that there was no evidence for a god, I found an existing definition that fit my disbelief.

Therefore: Atheist

 

2.  What happens when you die?   Probably the same shit that went on before I was alive.  Others will live and die and I won’t be the wiser of anything.  How did you feel in 1927, well that’s how I will feel when I’m dead.  Nothing.  More specifically, based on millions of other deaths, I believe the science, my body will rot and the atoms that once comprised the me that is here now will return amongst the innumerable atoms already everywhere.  Oh and before I wrap up question 2, my religious family will probably mourn over the belief they share that their all loving God will punish me eternally in the pits of hell.

 

3.  What if you’re wrong and there is a heaven and a hell?  Oh crap!  I suppose I would hope that whatever god is over the whole thing won’t be yours and will instead respect those who didn’t follow blindly behind the indoctrinated beliefs of others.  I would hope this God would respect the fact that I required proof and evidence and held sacred the ability to logic and reason.

 

4.  Without God, where did you get your morality from?  Morality is ever changing.  Societies morals have evolved and have superseded those of even the Gods.  God nor his Jesus ever condemned slavery and instead supported it.  Morals and ethics can be found in 1000’s of species and to think that your morals, that the human species morals come from a God is ignorant, in fact insane.  Would you rape and murder if today you found out that there was no God?  Probably not, or at least I hope not.  I’ve ranted in depth on this before, but it’s your group, your religious nutters, specifically the christians who have the highest rates of teen pregnancy, spouse abuse, incarcerations and sexually transmitted diseases and if you’re morals are superior and from a divine source, shouldn’t we expect to see the opposite?

 

5.  If there is no god, can we do what we want?  Are we free to murder and rape?  While good deeds go unrewarded?

 

Really, what the actual fuck?  Yes, with or without a god you are free to rape and murder.  Fortunately for us, evolution has created us as a social species which thrive on the ability to get along.  With or without your God those who don’t lend to safety and harmony in our societies are removed or expelled.  No good deed is unrewarded.  We all feel good when we help another.  This is reward enough for me.  I don’t rape and I don’t murder, not for the promise of heavenly reward or fear of eternal hell fire, I don’t rape and I don’t murder because I can’t.  I’m not capable, naturally, biologically, morally and ethically, I can’t do it.  Only a sociopath would require the aid of imaginary reward and punishments to curtail a desire to harm another.

 

6.  If there is no god, how does your life have any meaning?  Again, we are a social species.  I enjoy the company of others, I love helping my fellowman, I love sunsets, friends, family, my children, bourbon and Krispy Kreme donuts among many many other things.  This is more than enough to overwhelm my life in meaning.  I require no prize at the end, no fanciful tale of gold streets and mansions and naked cherubs playing shitty music.  I am here now and I’m enjoying every second.

 

7.  Where did the universe come from?  I love this one, because although most of these questions are ignorant, this one is super duper ignorant.  So there is no god, then where did the universe come from.

 

Well let’s say you could prove a god made the universe.  Now which God would it be.  You still have everything left.  You’ve accomplished nothing.  Proving someone made the universe still doesn’t add any credibility to your horrid little god concept.

 

But to answer, scientists are still searching, testing and studying and each day brings us more information and more data.  We’ve only mapped a portion of the universe and of that it’s still shrouded in complexities.  The current accepted theory is that there was a big bang of sorts.  There is mountains of evidence to validate it as well.  But still they continue to learn more and hopefully one day we will understand better.

 

At one point and time a bunch of semi literate goat fuckers thought there was a firmament or covering above the earth and that the starlight was holes in that firmament, they also thought the sun revolved around the earth, they thought the thunder meant God was mad, these same fucknuts are who wrote your holy books.  Yet today, most christians will rely upon the sciences for medical treatments and not sacrificing two goats and dove to Woogey Boogey Boo in the sky.

 

8.  What about miracles?  What about all the people who claim to have a connection with Jesus?  What about those who claim to have seen saints or angels?  If I may, I would like to answer with a question or two.

It’s a fact that where you are born will determine you’re religious beliefs, so why are we watching the Muslim religion explode in membership in the middle east if Jesus is who they see and feel in their sacred moments?  Why aren’t they seeing Jesus?  Why do the Hindus often see loved ones in cows, while Near Death Experiences for Muslims often entail Muhammad.  Bottom line, science has answered this, specifically neuro science.  Miracles don’t happen and if you prove one, please register to win the standing 1, Million dollar price from the JREF foundation.

 

People who believe in martians often see martians and people who believe in Muhammad often feel Muhammad.  It’s actually pretty simple.  We live in Jesusland and so it would be more of a miracle if your sheep’s brains didn’t deliver spiritual experiences with Jesus.

 

9.  What’s your view of Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris?  Another easy one, just in case I wasn’t going to finish – I guess.  Well, I love them all.  I can’t say I agree with every single idea they pose, but all in all, they are and were 3 brilliant minds.  They are and have been critical of religious batshittery and do and have done their parts in making the world a better place for all.

 

10.  If there is no God, then why does every society have a religion?  Well you got me there.  1,000’s of societies and hundreds of Gods worshipped, which one is correct?  One day your god will be added to the myths of years gone by.  Gods and their religions came when mankind’s knowledge was at it’s weakest.  When not a single person knew to wash his hands after wiping his own ass.  Mankind has always wanted answers and for each gap that exists in our knowledge, man has invented Gods to feel the void.  Your God is on his last leg.  100’s of years have brought forth facts that have filled many of those gaps.  Your God has precious few left.  And when he’s out of gaps, he’ll be out of the minds and humanity will be all the better for it.

 

Your question isn’t a bragging point, it’s an embarrassment to humanity.  It’s proof that many will stop at nothing to satisfy the egos desire to know something or at least think they do.

 

Now you see clearly I’ve answered all those questions you ignorantly assumed unanswerable.  Of course if you had an IQ higher than a plant you could have helped yourself to answers just like these by using the great and powerful wizard called Google.

 

Sadly though, your goal isn’t to get answers and it’s obvious in the mind numbing article you posted.  Your goal is to feed the sheep.  It’s to appear smart to the most ignorant among us.

 

Your goal is to pitch a strawman to your sheep as if it’s evidence for belief.  How awfully fragile ones faith must be that you dare not look anything up before infecting others with your nonsense, you refuse to debate, listen to or respond to the myriad of facts that annihilate your position.

 

This is immoral and unethical.  Your goal is to gain followers, sell shirts and swag that demonstrate the worst humanity has to offer.  Fuck you, from the bottom of my feet to the top of my head, fuck you.  You are nothing more than a dishonest 2 bit self aggrandizing carney hocking your stupidity to those you find are more stupid than you.

 

You could end it all, if only you could provide any evidence for your invisible friend on high. But there is no evidence and from you and others like you, we can only expect more insane, illogical and straw man fallacies for the duration.  This infuriates me, it angers me to my core.  It’s not that you’re an imbecile, it’s that you feed that insatiable ego by harming and deluding others.

 

So again, fuck you!  And although you may never read, listen or respond, some of your followers will and hopefully some will raise their heads to view further than the sheeps asshole in front of them.

057 – Mormons Morality And Miracle Confirmations

You’re probably wondering what appliance you buy for your home so that you can breath pure unadulterated ozone.  Find out why ionizing air purifiers will fuck you up.  Have you not joined yet?  What the hell?!  Thanks to some fantastic listeners and friends of the show, we have more free FFRF memberships to offer those who can’t afford one at this time.

A NoMo On ExMos

Podcast host and resident of Catfish Creek Trailer Park, David Michael joined us live.  The “MyBookOfMormonPodcast” is your guide to all that is the Mormon church.  David, a non-Mormon (NoMo) decided to read the Book of Mormon and find out exactly what those Mormon’s are so proud of.

David offers some tips on making Christians feel like dumbasses without one mean or antagonistic word.  It will be my new approach from now one and I can’t wait to try it.

Also because he’s one of those evil Atheists, he’s helping raise funds for those needing counseling in their transition out of Mormonism.  http://whitefieldseducational.org/mybookofmormonpodcast

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Dolphin Sex!

Dolphin Sex Expert, Dave Foda joined us live for a lively discussion or morals.  Unfortunately we ran out of time but we have plans to beg him back on for more.  This morality stuff is fascinating and it’s almost like wrapping your head around quantum theory.

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If You’re So Sure About It All…

then why the fuck must you scour the mundane for something to claim?  Every chance the Christian gets to claim a miracle, they do.  Yet they are always the most mundane and simplistic.  Keys, a job, a term paper – those aren’t miracles asshole!

This week I rant a bit on this whole miracle bullshit and why I think Christians must claim everything only because they really and truly don’t find the evidence satisfying.

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Claim those miracles, no matter how small.  I remember my pastor and friend saying this and I’ve heard it countless times throughout my life.  “Get Up, Claim That Miracle, you want to be healed, you want to be well, you want more money, no matter what you want, claim it in Jesus’s Name!”

 

And when it fails… oh and it does fail… in fact it fails almost 100 percent of the time, but when it does, just know, you didn’t do something right – or maybe you weren’t ready or maybe god has a different plan for you.  When the super powerful deity resides only within your head, any excuse for failure can be reasoned away.

 

There are no missed blessings or unanswered prayers that can’t be excused because your God has a plan.

 

Imagine getting up each day, seeing the sun rise and picking up the phone, calling everyone, logging onto facebook and exclaiming, Look look, I had the faith and science answered, cosmologists are right, it did come up, the sun is overhead now!  Hallelujah!  Each day repeating the same, each day claiming that miracle of seeing the sun.

 

Feel the warmth, goddamn those physicists, right again.  I feel the warmth right now.  A miracle!  They explained the heat process and holy shit, they nailed it.  I can’t wait for tomorrow to check again.

 

We don’t claim these things.  We don’t need to.  We enjoy living in rooms without padded walls.  We enjoy our freedoms to come and go without being heavily medicated and having security accompaniment.  We don’t need confirmation for the things we KNOW exist, we don’t need confirmation for the things we know will happen.

 

If God is real and god is watching over you, Then why do you need to claim the miracles?

Why must you scour the mundane for something to claim?

Jesus helped me find my keys, Jesus helped me pass the test, Jesus sent you to me, Jesus got me home safely, jesus prevented our death during the tornado, jesus led the rescuers to our car, jesus saved the drowning baby, jesus reminded me to turn off the stove, jesus stopped my migraine, jesus helped me fix my hair, jesus kept our car from running out of gas, jesus made me late and I wasn’t in that horrible school bus accident.

 

Visit any southern church and it may apply to the northern churches too, but I know that any southern church will not pass up an opportunity to claim something thought divine.

 

Brothers and Sisters, God was there for Thelma this week.  She was on the way to the doctors office, an appointment she’s had for over 2 months now.  Sister Thelma is on cummadin to help thin her blood due to the arteriorschlerosis and her bad heart and those mini strokes.  Missing this appointment could be life or death for her.

 

Well she left in plenty of time but traffic was horrible.  As she sat at the red light, she knew that if she caught one more red light she would be too late and miss her appointment.  She said a little prayer, she asked Jesus to help her make it in time.  As soon as she said Amen, the light turned green and as she drove she kept thanking Jesus repeatedly for getting her there on time.  Each light she came to, turned green, almost instantaneously.  Not once did she have to come to a complete stop.  Jesus answered her prayers and although she was a few minutes late, the doctor hadn’t left and was able to see her and renew her medications.

 

Now imagine a doctor and each time seeing a patient with an infection, proclaiming, see right there, germ theory.  It’s true!  Seeing you sick just confirms Louis Pasteur’s great works.  Not just once, but every time this doctor seemingly amazed that Holy Shit, you have an infection, Goddamn that Louis Pasteur, was right.

 

But you won’t find a sane doctor making such proclamations at each sight of sickness.  Because doctors know what germ theory is, it doesn’t surprise them, it doesn’t bolster their faith in Germ Theory each time.  It’s a given, they know it, they understand it and they find no need in acting surprised and excited each time it manifests.

 

Yet you Christians, you religious nutters will take any randomness of chance and pervert it into a miracle.  Not only a miracle, but see, there ya go, proof, my god exists.  If you truly believed and actually knew it to be true, would there be reason for proclamations and joyous retellings?  Who are you attempting to convince?  I would say yourself.  I would say your reason and logic recognize the missed miracles, the opportunities for God to do the impossible and so you must attribute, proclaim and share the mundane chance happenings of your God.  It’s certainly not a sign of faith, but just the opposite, it demonstrates your lack of faith, it demonstrates that inside that monkey brain of yours there lies a hint of reason and logic.

 

Stories of miracles like Sister Thelma’s can be heard in churches every Sunday.  But let me ask you, If Jesus is a miracle worker, why is Thelma sick, why the need for medications, why the need for science’s doctors?  If Jesus wished to impress and bolster your faith for longer than a second, why not heal Sister Thelma, why allow the sickness and disease in the first place?  Jesus could have avoided the green lights all together.

 

And why would Sister Thelma even need to pray, doesn’t Jesus know it all, he knows when the sparrow falls, each hair is numbered atop your head and he knows when you masturbate, what’s the point of requiring prayer before action?

 

I’m a father to 9 children.  Imagine my children come to the fridge to find it empty, the pantry the same.  They say Dad, where’s all the food?  Oh, I know you better than you know yourself, I know you’ll be hungry each day, but none of you came to me and asked for food.  I would really prefer and appreciate you asking in faith that I’ll deliver on my promise to provide, sometimes.

 

What father, what mother, what sane human would require such after proclaiming to care, to know and having accepted the responsibility?

 

Yet your God, says he cares, he knows your needs, he goes further by telling you to think not for tomorrow for he will provide.  Yet each of you feel the need to pray incessantly, to thank continually and to share with others in the event, by random chance your need is fulfilled, regardless the fact you did it for yourself.  Why not instead pray to Murphy, for it is his law that provides you with the probabilities of chance?

 

Imagine each day I take my cast net to the lakeshore to the one spot free from trees and bushes so that I can cast it perfectly.  Each day I cast and each day I catch nothing.  Then one day, I catch 2 little fish and I exclaim –  Thank you Jesus, look at that, it’s a miracle.  Jesus helped me catch some fish.  You could attribute that instead to chance or even to Satan, but you’ll instead remain blissfully deluded and give thanks for nothing, give thanks for the mundane.

 

If you really believed, if you really knew it all to be true, then why not do as Jesus commanded, fret not for tomorrow, no savings, no bank account, no worry for paying the bills, buying food or filling your tank with gas, God will provide?

 

Because you don’t really believe that horseshit.  And it’s why you must scan and comb the vastness of happenstance searching anything regardless of how completely jejune to revive your faith, to rejuvenate your beliefs and to promulgate the ideological insanity.

 

Nowhere else will you find the real and demonstrable being praised and shared each time it’s laws manifest.  Only the trite miracles of imaginary and invisible sky daddies require such efforts.

 

Recently a little girl fell into a pool in TN.  She was found by her parents, unconscious and not breathing.  CPR was administered and after days on life support she regained consciousness.  At three years old this little child tells her mom she saw a bright light and even saw Jesus walking towards her.

 

Her mom retells the story for the media and adds:  “…and she’s never heard of a bright light story before.”

 

As if the miracle of seeing Jesus wasn’t enough, she hadn’t ever been exposed to a bright light story and this confirms that there is a heaven and Jesus is waiting there.  Sorry Muslims, it was Jesus and not Muhammad.  If all Christians believed wholeheartedly this Jesus, heaven, afterlife shit, would there ever be any need to share such trite occurrences?  Wouldn’t it just be considered speaking the obvious, like the doctor who gets excited each time he finds germs have sickened another patient?

 

Holy shit, I turned the key and the motor started.  Turn off the radio kids, listen to that purr, the motors running, that whole combustion engine thing is for real.  We will try it again on the way home.  Fingers crossed everyone.  Fingers crossed.

 

The laws of probability, chance and randomness befall us all, some give thanks to Satan, others to Muhammad, others to Vishnu and some to Christ.  But we thinkers, we without a fragile faith at risk – understand, we recognize the probabilities and we accept it for what it is.

 

But you Christians, you’ll promote the ignorant superstitions, you’ll indoctrinate others, you’ll promulgate the insanity with miraculous explanations of the mundane.  Possibly unknowingly and unaware you hurt others with your miracle claims and propaganda.

 

When those prayers go unanswered or a miracle missed, the faithful bow inside feeling unworthy, unloved and ignored.  They must exercise extreme cognitive dissonance in order to remain hopeful.  The preachers and pastors will tell them that they didn’t hold out long enough, that their faith wasn’t strong enough or that God has another plan.

 

It’s a win win for those whose livelihoods are kept by those most ignorant.  They want you to claim each and every sunrise, claim the purr of each piston stroke or keys found.  It’s the only way they can provide you miracles as promised, it’s the only way you’ll continue in belief and feeding their insatiable appetites for riches and wealth.

 

And  now you know.  No longer can you be excused when you encourage others with your nonexistent miracles.  Your beliefs are harmful and your preachers evil.  Fuck your nonsense, fuck your miracles, fuck your God and fuck you!  In jesus name I pray, amen.

057 – Mormons Morality And Miracle Confirmations